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Below you will find the contents of our Sunday Morning Order of Worship. Many of the songs listed here are linked to sites to assist in hearing the tunes (provided as a reference, but many times, not exactly as we play them, and sometimes with images that we don't endorse! Open up another "tab" on your browser and listen to the music while reading the words here). The Scripture references are also linked. Our past worship folders are accessible by linking to the archive files on the right (along with some past sermon quotes). Please read beyond the following Order of Worship listed below to read about our “philosophy” of worship. Beyond that are some notes from a recent sermon.

The worship of God -- the proclamation of His word, the participation in the sacraments, and the desire for total discipleship -- is very important to us! Worship requires us to bow in humility so that we can lift all of our attention upon the creator, sustainer, and redeemer of the universe. You are invited to join us as we seek the face of our great God and Savior.

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Order of Service - May 11 - Rev. Kent Moorlach Preaching

Welcome to Communion Presbyterian! (Announcements)

- Welcome to the worship and celebration of our Risen Savior, Jesus Christ! -
- We invite our visitors to sign the Guest Book located on the entry table. Please also visit our information counter. -
- Children are invited to stay for the entire service; however, we also provide childcare for those who desire it. Please consult an attendant wearing a blue smock for assistance. -
- Today we will observe the Lord’s Supper. This sacrament communicates the “true communion” that believers have with God and each other. By participating with us, you are proclaiming to be a baptized and professing disciple of Jesus Christ and a member in “good standing” of a Christian church, a repentant sinner, and a “hope-filled” saint; possessing the faith of a humble child — trusting in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. -
- May the Lord be honored among us this day. -

Preparation for Worship & Canto

*Opening Hymn — Bread of Heaven on Thee We Feed (Dix)

Bread of Heav’n on Thee we feed, for Thy flesh is meat indeed:
Ever may our souls be fed, with this true and living Bread;
Day by day with strength supplied, through the life of Him Who died.

Vine of Heav’n, Thy blood supplies, this blest cup of sacrifice,
Lord, Thy wounds our healing give, to Thy cross we look & live:
Jesus, may we ever be, grafted, rooted, built in Thee.

*Call to Worship — Psalm 80:17—19

Elder — But let Your hand be on the man of Your right hand, the
Son of Man whom You have made strong for Yourself!

All — Then we shall not turn back from You; give us life, and we will call upon Your name!

Elder — Restore us, O LORD God of hosts!

All — Let Your face shine, that we may be saved!

*Prayer of Adoration, Confession, & Assurance of Pardon

Song — Enough

You are my supply, my breath of life, still more awesome than I know!
You are my reward, worth living for, still more awesome than I know!

All of You is more than enough for,
All of me, for every thirst and every need,
You satisfy me with Your love,
And all I have in You is more than enough.

You’re my sacrifice, of greatest price, still more awesome than I know.
You’re the coming King, You are everything!
Still more awesome than I know...

Old Testament Law — Exodus 16:11—20
(The LORD’s provision of manna for the wandering Israelites.)

Old Testament Prophet — Nehemiah 9:6—20
(After a seven day fast of repentance, the Levites voice a prayer of confession.)

Reader — The word of the Lord. Congregation — Thanks be to God.

Psalm — 78:22—25 (Schumann)

The children did not heed, nor trust His saving power;
But He still did command the skies above to rain and shower.

He rained upon their heads, the manna, grain of heaven,
They ate the bread of abundance, as from the angels sent.

New Testament Gospel — Matthew 16:1—17
(The disciples remember Jesus’ miraculous feedings. Peter declares that Jesus is the Christ.)

New Testament Epistle — 1 Corinthians 2:12—14
(The Spirit of God assists us in understanding spiritual truths.)

Reader — The word of the Lord. Congregation — Thanks be to God.

Offertory — Hungry
[Presenting an offering to the Lord is a meaningful act of worship. It demonstrates the sacrifice of thankful hearts from those who have been blessed with Divine provisions!
Please pass the offering basket throughout your section toward the back. Thank you.]

Hungry, I come to you for I know you satisfy.
I am empty, but I know Your love does not run dry.
And so I wait for You so I wait for You,

I'm falling on my knees, offering all of me
Jesus, You're all this heart is living for

Broken, I run to You for Your arms are open wide.
I am weary, but I know Your touch restores my life.
And so I wait for You so I wait for You,

Affirmation of Faith — Council of Orange (441) [Canon 8]

Elder — If anyone maintains that some are able to come to the grace of regeneration by mercy but others through free will, (which has been corrupted in all those who have been born after the transgression of the first man,) it is proof that he has no place in the true faith.

All — For he denies that the free will of all men has been
weakened through the sin of the first man,

Elder — Or at least holds that it has been affected in such a way that they still have the ability to seek the mystery of eternal salvation by themselves without the revelation of God.

All — The Lord himself shows how contradictory this is by declaring that no one is able to come to him "unless the Father who sent me draws him."

Elder — As he also says to Peter, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven"

All — And as Paul says, "No one can say 'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit"

*Song — Thy Presence, Gracious God

Thy presence, gracious God, afford; prepare us to receive Thy Word:
Now let Thy voice engage our ear, and faith be mixed with what we hear.

Distracting thoughts & cares remove, and fix our hearts & hopes above:
With food divine may we be fed, and satisfied with living bread.

Father, in us Thy Son reveal; teach us to know and do Thy will.
Thy saving power & love display, in every heart where Thou dost reign.

Sermon: “Walking On, or Walking Away”

(Text: John 6:17—71; message by: Rev. Kent Moorlach)

Pastoral Prayer with Lord’s Prayer

Elder’s Response

*Hymn of Preparation — Agnus Dei (For the Lord Almighty Reigns)

Alleluia, Alleluia — For our Lord God Almighty reigns!
Alleluia, Alleluia — For our Lord God Almighty reigns!

Alleluia — Holy, Holy,
Are You Lord God Almighty,
Worthy is the Lamb, worthy is the Lamb —You are Holy,

Holy — are You Lord God Almighty,
Worthy is the Lamb, worthy is the Lamb, Amen.

*Sursum Corda

Minister: Communion of Christ, we are gathered in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
People: Amen.
Minister: Lift up your hearts.
People: We lift them to the Lord!
Minister: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God.
People: It is right to give Him thanks and praise!
Minister: Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us.
People: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and
wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper
The presiding minister will give direction for participation in this meal.
Please return the empty cup to the front basket when you have finished. Thank you.
{Wine is located on the table edge nearest to the cross. Grape juice is on the outside.}

*Closing Hymn — My Lord, To Here You’ve Led (Aurelia)

My Lord, to here You’ve led me, within this holy place,
And here, Your hand has fed me with treasures of Your grace;
And You have freely given what earth could never buy,
The Bread of Life from heaven, that now I shall not die.

Lord, grant me that, now strengthened, with heav’nly food, while here,
My course on earth be lengthened, to serve with holy fear;
And when You call my spirit to leave this world below,
My eyes will fully see it, all joys unmingled flow.


*Prayer, Doxology, Benediction & Threefold Amen

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- Please join us after the service for refreshments followed by Sunday School classes for all ages.-

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Think of all that God has done; think of who He is! Creator and sustainer of the universe; Provider and Protector of His people; Righteous judge and loving Redeemer! If these concepts have any connection with our souls, we will lift up to God our thoughtful praise and offer to Him all that we value – for it all rightly belongs to Him alone.

The simple truth of worship is this: everybody is doing it! Even those who never attend church spend their time, devotion, money, planning, and daydreaming on earthly pursuits – and for what purpose? To possess something of value, something significant, something that will provide purpose for living. Worship of earthly pursuits equally illicit a response – but the focus of human worship is, “Look at what I have accomplished,” rather than, “Thank God for what He has done! From beginning to end, thank God for His purposes. His purposes are greater than mine!”

The purpose of our worship then is to honor and glorify God by gratefully offering back to Him all the good gifts, and all the knowledge of His greatness and grace. It involves praising Him for who He is and desiring His glory above our own.

This kind of worship however is not merely a personal invention. Even though we are awestruck in wonder of God and long to participate in a grateful celebration, our zeal is also accompanied with the knowledge that God alone has proscribed the type of worship that is acceptable to Him.

“The basis of worship is the covenant relationship whereby God has bound himself to those whom he has saved and claimed. This was true of Old Testament worship as it is now of Christian worship. The spirit of covenant worship, as the Old Testament models it, is a blend of awe and joy at the privilege of drawing near to the mighty Creator with radical self-humbling and honest confession of sin, folly, and need. Since God is holy and we humans are faulty, it must ever be so in this world. As worship will be central in the life of heaven (Rev. 4:8-11, 5:9-14; 7:9-17; 11:15-18; 15:2-4; 19:1-10), so it must be central in the life of the church on earth, and it should already be the main activity, both private and corporate, in each believer’s life (Col. 3:17).” – John Piper (Worship: God Gives a Liturgical Pattern)

Our worship is dedicated to God as an act of service to the God who has ordered all of life. To that end, our “liturgy” includes: prayer; singing; the reading of Scripture; preaching of the Word; and the administration of the sacraments. From the beginning of the Christian church, these elements have been regarded as an appropriate response to the saving work of the Triune God.

Families, including young children, are encouraged to worship together in the main service. We recognize God's gracious activity of saving whole households documented in the Scriptures; therefore, we place a value on entire families participating in our service. However, we also acknowledge that some of our youngest need special attention during an hour long service! For those who wish (or need), there is also childcare available for ages infant through kindergarten.

The ARPC Book of Worship encourages family worship, and so do we! From the Book of Worship, Chapter 2: "Family worship should be biblical and instructive: made interesting and inspiring to high ideals of Christian living and service. Participation by all should be encouraged. Subjects to discuss, materials to use, and activities of this worship period may be suggested by any member of the group. Ordinarily, the head of the home should assume the leadership responsibility."

And again, from the ARP Book of Worship, Chapter 3, section B: "Equally necessary for spiritual growth is daily worship, privately as an individual, and as a family in the home. There should be the reading of Scriptures and prayer. Other materials and activities may enhance the worship experience. Christian families should set aside some time each day to worship God. The Head of the home should see that this is done."

Communion families are invited to participate in the service through the reading of Scripture and music.

The Lord's Supper is celebrated at most services--signifying the primary importance of Christ's atoning work to present us holy and acceptable unto God. The Lord’s Table is open to those who claim Christ as their Lord, having been baptized (or have indicated a desire to be baptized), who have expressed a desire to repent of their sins, and who are not under the discipline of a Bible-believing church. Children may partake if they can clearly express their faith and their understanding of the Table. If visitors to our church wish to partake in the Lord's Supper, we ask that they listen carefully to the admonitions of our presiding pastors. Those seeking to participate in the "full communion" of our church through membership should seek out an elder to discuss this process.

A detailed guide to the ARP's purposes for public worship can be found at this link: http://www.arpsynod.org/pdf/Directory%20of%20Public%20Worship%20(DRAFT).pdf

May God be glorified in our praise and service to Him.

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Sermon Notes:

(Here is the foundation for a recent sermon given at Communion Presbyterian. These are sermon research notes which contribute to the Sunday morning proclamation...)

INTRO; Weeding around cactuses! Did I offend you? Today’s creed…

Review and clarification of Jewish Feasts w/ pilgrimages (Lev. 23) = Pesach ? Spring // Shavuot ? Summer // Sukkoth ? Autumn. What we celebrate today is Pentecost (Shavuot)

Just as the Lamb was slain at Passover, so was Christ upon the cross (pesach) Jesus raised on the feast of First Fruits, where the first stalk of grain was waved as an offering – but that signaled a 50 day countdown, 7 Sabbaths equaling 49 days would pass after first fruits, and the day after was the feast of the harvest (Shavuot). 50 days after Passover, the Jews celebrate the receiving of the law.

So Shavuot, now called Pentecost (50 days) is the occasion for all the Jews being in Jerusalem when the Spirit comes down and descends upon the disciples, and all the pilgrims hear the gospel in their own language in Acts. 2. But once again, Shavuot is a harvest festival, but Sukkoth is an ingathering festival (explain) one day God will gather every tribe nation and tongue

I think John 6, 71 verses –is both a very Pentecostal and Sacramental passage. And even though we shaved a bit off last week, it is still – TOO MUCH to cover -- so we’ll embark on an introductory read of Jesus’ 4th sign of walking on the water, and then consideration of one of the greatest extended sermons of Christ captured by John, which is offensive enough that many people walk away from Jesus.

16 When evening came, his disciples went down to the sea, 17 got into a boat, and started across the sea to Capernaum. It was now dark, and Jesus had not yet come to them. 18 The sea became rough because a strong wind was blowing. 19 When they had rowed about three or four miles, they saw Jesus walking on the sea and coming near the boat, and they were frightened. 20 But he said to them, "It is I; do not be afraid." 21 Then they were glad to take him into the boat, and immediately the boat was at the land to which they were going.

John’s account of Jesus walking on the water does not contain some of our favorite elements mentioned in the other gospels, namely, the disciples thinking that they were seeing a ghost, and Peter trying out his wave riding abilities. But what John has in common with the other gospels, is that in the stormy darkness, in the futility of their rowing, they freak out at seeing Jesus approaching them – walking on the water. But when Jesus speaks to them, their fears are relieved – WHEW, it’s only Jesus walking on the water, cuz, I have a phobia about that = aquabipedalphobia! (Guys standing on long boards – I can handle that!)

But let’s put John’s boat into context. We’ve just had Jesus feeding the 5K. Jesus escapes the crowds because they want to make him king. The disciples are waiting for Jesus, but since he’s not on the dock, they decide to row off as it’s getting late. Because of the geography of the Sea of Tiberius, or lake Galilee, and because of a local wind condition sweeping out of the Golan Heights, the disciples are in a stormy situation, and then Jesus appears. He gets into the boat, and at that exact moment, they arrive to where they had intended (movie scene!)
Question is: Why the back to back signs – feeding of the 5K and walking on H20? Because of the stormy conversation about to take place in the balance of John 6. Jesus is now at the Zenith of his public ministry. He has a mass of people following him – this is called success in ministry!! People actually wanting what He’s offering! But do they really have an accurate understanding of Jesus and what He offers? We will learn that the only thing that Jesus offers is a life that is totally dependent upon who he IS!! Religious confidence CAN NOT be placed in keeping feasts, OR making pilgrimages, OR observing temple rituals – NO MORE confidence can be placed in your family heritage, or national identity, or buying your mother a religious gift on Mother’s day! Jesus is replacing all of that!

And Jesus is NOT offering us a new plan, or a better way, or proven principles, or a more concise theology – [Now you theologians, just let that go for the moment!] – According to John 6, Jesus isn’t offering anything! He is commanding, he is demanding, he is requiring of those who follow him, that HE must become our all consuming passion. Jesus demands our ultimate and final allegiance, and if we can’t handle that truth, we might as well walk away!

So the disciples see Jesus feed the crowds, and they are filled – Just like when Moses led the Israelites in the wilderness. Then Jesus walks across the raging waters and brings the disciples safely to the other side – Just like when Moses led the Israelites across the Red Sea. Two very profound signs that equate Jesus to Moses! And we must ask ourselves by way of preparation – how did the wandering Israelites do with receiving God’s words? They grumbled!! Even though God cared for them and got them to where He promised – they grumbled and rebelled!

Unbelieving Israel was happy to follow Moses out of slavery; but when they had troubles -- they grumbled – NOW, we will see that the people are happy to follow Jesus out of hunger, but when he says something they regard as “troubling” – they will grumble…

22 On the next day the crowd that remained on the other side of the sea saw that there had been only one boat there, and that Jesus had not entered the boat with his disciples, but that his disciples had gone away alone. 23 Other boats from Tiberias came near the place where they had eaten the bread after the Lord had given thanks. 24 So when the crowd saw that Jesus was not there, nor his disciples, they themselves got into the boats and went to Capernaum, seeking Jesus. 25 When they found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him, "Rabbi, when did you come here?" 26 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, you are seeking me, not because you saw signs, but because you ate your fill of the loaves.

Here is a clear indication that Jesus wants the people to realize that his miraculous SIGNS point to something greater than the miracle itself. The sign signifies that Jesus is GREATER than the miracle itself, (would you rather have Jesus or healing?) and the sign points to what Jesus provides for people in their salvation – salvation is a wonderful term that describes spiritual and eternal realities – and THAT is the realm WHERE Jesus RULES! His signs indicate that Jesus rules the natural world where hunger and storms and disease and death reign – but they also point to the fact that Jesus rules spiritual and eternal realities – where hunger, storms, disease, and death will not affect us – forever!

27 Do not labor for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on him God the Father has set his seal."

Two key points about Jesus signs. 1) Don’t look at the temporal result – it’s the eternal value that is the take away. Sure, Jesus can heal, he can feed thousands, he can even turn water into wine – but all that stuff is temporary – healed people will still die, fed people will get hungry, and the wine will run out – what are we to really understand from these signs? That Jesus has eternal power to raise, satisfy, and completely change those who believe in him. And who is he that we should believe in him? 2) The Son of Man! Who is the son of man? Well to be fair, just by the shear usage of the term – The prophet Ezekiel is the Son of man. Just read the OT book of Ezekiel, and you will read close to a gazillian times that when God addresses Ezekiel, he calls him, “Son of Man.”

But in Daniel 7:13, we read that the Son of Man is the one who comes from the Ancient of Days = Daniel 7:14 And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.

The son of man is the one who would come from God and establish an eternal kingdom. And to prove that Jesus is this person known as the son of man in Daniel 7, Jesus comes with God’s seal of approval, the very SIGNS he is performing! So the people respond in vs. 28

28 Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?" 29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."

Mark these verses, memorize these verses, love these verses! For every quazi-christian cult that comes to your door – quote these verses! What are the works of God? To believe in him whom he has sent!! What are the implications of this verse? God specifically SENT salvation to us – and you can EITHER believe that – OR you can try to ADD TO THAT – Which I think is repulsive to GOD!

The bottom line is this = everything about who Jesus is and what he has done is sufficient for our salvation, and the only way to get connected to that salvation is to believe that JESUS did it all – Believing rightly is the work of salvation, and we have yet to discuss who is responsible for that work of OUR BELIEVING, and who gets credit for that…

Why am I bringing this up – is this in the text?? IT is in the totality of what the Bible teaches; BUT IN FAIRNESS, I am harkening back to my recent conversation with the Mormon Missionaries who told me flat out that they were saved by grace – absolutely saved by grace AND repentance, prayer, controlling their life, growing in knowledge, getting baptized, and having hands laid on them to receive the holy spirit ? where in the blazes did the grace go?? With each mention of an additional thing that they must do to be saved, they erode any concept of being saved by GOD’S GRACE!

They are saved by a grace as defined by that theological luminary, Benjamin Franklin, God helps those who help themselves. BUT this is not true, we’re helpless!

I asked the Mormons, “Where does your grace begin?” “What does that mean?” I said, “According to the bible, the grace by which we are saved began before we were born, before we could even do anything good or bad! It was God’s electing grace that saves us by His predestination.” “Predestination?” “Yes, Ephesians chapter 1, Romans chapter 8,
1 Peter 1:1,2 …To those who are elect … 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you.

Grace starts with the Triune God, as the Father elects us in his son, and sets us apart to himself by his Holy Spirit; and salvation is completed with the Triune God as he alone receives the glory for this salvation! The reason why I bring this up in this fashion is because of all the religions who claim grace (but really champion human decisions), redefine grace as the opportunity for us to DO something to earn salvation! Working and earning is NOT and will never be GRACE!

Biblical grace is defined as God choosing to show his favor upon a damned human race by graciously electing them before they ever do anything good or bad, and with a grace strong enough to save them even though their lives are fraught with human weakness and failure – but those who are saved will always maintain THIS SAVING GRACE in this way: they believe in the works of the one whom God has sent – and will always believe it to the end.

Of course, the religions who claim grace (but really champion human decisions) are frightened of this kind of grace because it seems to them that people who really believe in God’s total grace from start to finish, will not live God glorifying lives – I had a great time telling the Mormons that I get to do whatever I want to do! They looked at each other with wild eyes like I was a completely lost soul and asked, “You can do what ever you want?” ABSOLUTELY! And what do I want to do?? I want to thank God every day for saving me by His grace.

So back to our text, I told the missionaries that the only work of God required of us is to believe, to believe in the one God has sent.

“Where does it say that?” John 6, “I’ve never read that before” Well, you should read all of John six and see that God’s Grace is all HIS WORK, and not your own; AND by His grace God will work in you, through you, for you, and in spite of you! I ran into them yesterday, and I got their phone #, we’ll be talking again!

All of this is background for what Jesus says in John 6.

30 So they said to him, "Then what sign do you do, that we may see and believe you? What work do you perform? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, 'He gave them bread from heaven to eat.'" 32 Jesus then said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave you the bread from heaven, but my Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." 34 They said to him, "Sir, give us this bread always."

Here is a JoJo! A John Joke: Jesus makes a statement, they misunderstand, it gives Jesus the opportunity to be crystal clear about the truth…

35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe.37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day."

The phrase, “eternal life” is used of John 17 times in his gospel and Jesus is always the link for obtaining it. We must listen very carefully here: God the Father has chosen a people, He is entrusting them to the Son, and Jesus will raise them up on the last day – raise them to eternal life!

41 So the Jews grumbled about him, because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven." 42 They said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, 'I have come down from heaven'?" 43 Jesus answered them, "Do not grumble among yourselves.

See the connection to Moses. He led the grumbling Israelites in the wilderness, even though God sent them bread from Heaven?

44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets, 'And they will all be taught by God.' Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me- 46 not that anyone has seen the Father except him who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh." 52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

Did they hear what Jesus said? Your father’s had a sign of God’s presence with them in Moses and the Manna – that didn’t know what the Manna was, In fact, the word manna is a question, “manna?” What is it? But they ate it and lived for a time, and then died – but now Jesus is the new gift of heaven demonstrating God’s presence with his people – God in the flesh! And if you want to live forever, you must hunger for him as the staple of life– we must feed on who Christ is and recognize that in His righteous body and soul he is the antidote for death! So we must chew on this: Jesus is the only person who can sustain us for all eternity, and unless his life becomes our life – we will perish! It is a beautiful and graphic way of getting everyone’s attention! We must take in all of Jesus so that he can raise us up! (As we depend on him, we must reject all others as a deadly diet!)

53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not as the fathers ate and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever." 59 Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum. 60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" 61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, "Do you take offense at this? 62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?

Reference Daniel 7:13, 14

63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is of no avail. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe." (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) 65 And he said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father." 66 After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him.

John 666, many disciples walking away from Jesus! As Jesus speaks graphically about consuming his very body and blood, he interjects a final point of utmost importance – the spirit gives life to these words. This is obviously a passage framing the sacrificial work of Christ which we contemplate at the Lord’s Supper. But on this Pentecost Sunday, there is only one way that anything sent by God to us would have any effect – and that is when the Spirit makes it a reality to our hearts and mind! At Pentecost, The Father and the Son send the Spirit to those elected to inherit saving grace. And who is elect? Those who believe and confess the truth! We will hear a proper confession in a moment from Simon Peter. But before we conclude this section to which we have only glossed – please note that this section is replete with the Father giving, and the Son giving, and the Spirit giving – and they all give life to those who are drawn to believe. All of the Triune God is working to call a people to depend on Christ alone! Great language for the early church to read, and comprehend about their salvation! Great language for us today!

67 So Jesus said to the Twelve, "Do you want to go away as well?" 68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, 69 and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God." 70 Jesus answered them, "Did I not choose you, the Twelve? And yet one of you is a devil." 71 He spoke of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the Twelve, was going to betray him.

In John 6, Jesus meets with people who grumble with God’s Grace! Jesus lays all the implications of grace and faith and life on the line, even though he had become wildly successful in drawing crowds, he tells them that he is here for his chosen. That IS a hard teaching. We would be happy to make Jesus a bit more approachable, somewhat user friendly; but he is the God who shows mercy to whom He pleases.

As a preacher, I would prefer to make this message a bit more palatable, but this is exactly where Jesus challenges ME – I must swallow the truth about who I am, and what I really want. Like the crowds that were willing to follow him, I am so interested in just getting daily bread, the great things that Jesus offers! God knows I have daily needs, he asks me to pray about that! But what I am in most need of is Jesus pouring his life into me as a disciple, and giving me life by His spirit. And I can only acknowledge that any of this is simply a result of HIS grace, and not my works, not even my desires – A grace that conquers my unbelief, A grace that makes me completely dependent upon the Savior.

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--- The bread didn’t feed the 5000, Jesus did! The boat didn’t get them there. Jesus did.
If you have plans to be fed in this life, if you have plans to get somewhere – there is only ONE way to do that – only in “Christ, the son of the living God.”


So here the people know that TRUE representatives of God must be accompanied by signs. Even in our day! 2 Cor. 12:12 says that a true apostle is accompanied with signs, wonders, and miracles, and as soon as the Mormon Apostles show me some, I think I’ll give them a chance to make a case; of course 2 Corinthians 11:13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. That’s why there are not apostles today anyway, or prophets – only servants of the king!

For all the graphic nature of Jesus language here. And especially since this passage is truly connected to the observance of the Lord’s table – it seems rather important that this verse frames the discussion of ingesting Christ – It is the Spirit who gives life. The discussion of eating flesh and blood is repulsive but as the miracles are signs of something greater, I think Jesus language speaks of something greater. Those who have the Spirit are not repulsed by this language, we see it as our spiritual source of life! AND also with this mention, we have a Trinitarian salvation – the Father has elected a people, they are saved by Christ, and they are preserved by the Spirit.

I must stop here and depend on Jesus’ speak! We are going to read it in detail in a few moments; but this has always been Bible language, which has been called as a theological category – Calvinism. First of all, you don’t need to read a lick of what John Calvin wrote to be called a Calvinist! All you need to do is read the Bible! And there in the Bible you will read that God is the author of salvation from first to last! That God’s grace begins in eternity past, where God made an eternal decree to save a perishing human race by electing some to salvation to the praise of His glory!

 

 

Pentecost Sunday Service
May 11, 2008


You shall count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath. Then you shall present a grain offering of new grain to the LORD.
-- Leviticus 23:16

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The simplest theological term for how the Holy Spirit connects us to the holiness of God is the word, “applies.” The Spirit applies to us the very life and law-keeping of Christ. The Spirit applies to us the finished work of Christ upon the cross, the Spirit applies to us all the promises of God to us in Christ – so that in every possible way, in God’s sight we are regarded as holy, righteous, beloved, and free from condemnation – we are cherished by God as God cherishes His own Son, Jesus Christ – and the Holy Spirit makes it all "stick" to us; and no power in the universe can steal it from us because it is all the work of God upon us, and not the work of our hands.
These are encouraging words in light of what Jesus also promised for us in John 16 – trial and tribulation! We will go through times of heartache, persecution, and loneliness. It is at these times that we will be most tested and tempted to turn our backs upon the will and purposes of God.
But to the one truly converted and connected, the Spirit will continue with this one and persevere with them until the very end. How important this promise is to the success of the church – because in our lifetime, we will not all display the morality we know to be right, or the behavior and attitude which speaks to the transforming work of the Spirit – but God will not give up on His plan to make us truly pure and devoted in following Him.
And in our life, we will not all display the doctrinal precision we know we should possess; the diligence to study, the discipline to train our hearts and minds - which also speaks to the evidence of the Spirit working in us – but God will not abandoned His project to convince us of His truth, and His love in our mind, body, and soul.

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...But something happened to John the Baptist; he had serious questions about whether Jesus really understood the goals of the Kingdom – and while Jesus reassures John about his ministry; Jesus eventually gathering his followers, AFTER HIS RESURRECTION in Acts 1:3 …appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God. And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, "you heard from me; for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now."
And thus reveals a major component of Jesus’ Kingdom and rule – the presence and influence of the Holy Spirit. Christ’s kingdom will be a spiritual kingdom that has an impact upon all earthly kingdoms. Jesus commissions his followers in Matthew 28, 18 …, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Jesus wants this world transformed by making disciples. Jesus’ plan for growing his Kingdom is by making disciples. This church is about making disciples -- we are about discipleship here. What is a disciple? A disciple is a learner, a pupil, a follower. We want people to learn how to follow Jesus. How do we do this? We will baptize them, and we will teach what is commanded – and all of this under the power and direction of the Holy Spirit.
If you are a follower of Jesus today, a serious disciple, you will be observing what Christ has commanded and you will be baptized into the name of the Triune God.

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And that is the question, isn’t it – Even IF I am a member of a Christian Household – one that is spiritually “set apart” from the rest of the world which is under God’s wrath – what benefit is it to me if I can still somehow forfeit my final redemption?
I don’t want to be a "temporary object" of redemption! I don’t want to just enjoy church fellowship and potlucks here on earth if it’s not going to translate into an eternal redemption of both my body and soul in heaven!
I AGREE 100%: And this is the tension for anyone who gets baptized, whether a Baby raised in the church, or the Biker raised by a gang who has a conversion experience as an adult. ONCE they are both baptized, they become visible members of God’s Kingdom. In their baptism we claim that the washing waters puts them to death, no longer spiritually connected to the lost communion earned by Adam and Eve. They are therfore, buried and raised up to a life completely connected to the righteous life of Jesus Christ -- cleansed of all their sin, born again by the Spirit, and adopted into the family where our older brother Jesus Christ, sets the example - and as we follow our brother's example, and as we obey our Father, and will promote His kingdom.
In baptism, we declare that the baptized receives every blessings and benefit of being a member of a redeemed household. This baptism is actually a sanctifying influence for the Christian home just as it was for the Jewish household of the Old Testament, God's uniquely chosen people.
In Romans 9:4 the Apostle Paul lists the benefits that the Jews received growing up in a household of faith: They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Paul is stating that being connected to a Jewish household gives a person a front row seat to hearing, learning, and inculcating the faith (HEY – THAT’s the definition of a Disciple!!) this is the "classroom" that God desires for His chosen people.
AND It is the same for those who are raised in a Christian household! There are tremendous benefits -- and we should call it the Grace of God -- that children in a home with at least one believing parent -- receives the influence of a saint in their life. When children are raised in a Christian home, the children will learn how to pray, they will learn the stories of God’s faithfulness, they will learn the importance of the Christian community, they will learn about Jesus who loves the little children – and all that learning contributes to discipleship!
And to mark people out as a disciple, we baptize them – JUST LIKE JESUS COMMISSIONED. In this baptism we tell them, and everyone observing, that they are an object of God’s redemption, they are now in a household that is protected from the wrath of God, that they have received God’s sign and seal of acceptance and welcome – They have now received the TRUE SIGN of a members of God’s kingdom – the church.

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Adam and Eve in all their strength could not merit their own redemption – so God provided a covering for them, and a promise! Likewise, not one of us, from the youngest to the oldest, to the strongest, wisest, or richest, could ever perform what would be required to redeem our lives – So God in His grace has provided a covering for us in our baptism – that all of the Trinity would provide for us all the righteousness of Christ and provide us with a promise: never to leave us or forsake us – this is the sure hope for all who long to be faithful disciples.

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This leads me to a primary principle. A kingdom must have a king, and a people and a boundary. For the Christian today, everything is related to these boundaries:
What are the boundaries of God’s rule, and the rule of human governments?
Where are the boundaries to be found between living for God’s kingdom and living in society,
and who enforces the boundaries of each kingdom? How does Jesus rule his people, and how should a government rule it’s people?

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And this is our real struggle isn’t it – it is against our Creator. We have chosen to not live up to what He created us to be – We are suppoed to be people who love justice and beauty and goodness and purity. BUT We love shortcuts instead of integrity. We choose earthly influence over eternal significance. We are constantly seeking after “the life;” but are hell bent on destroying ourselves as we do it.
In our very soul, we know that a King is going to return and make everything that is wrong about this world right again; but we are so focused on our tiny existence, that we never look up and acknowledge His rule over our life.
But His plan for ruling and reigning over every selfish power has already been announced in Genesis 3:15: the Lord says to the serpent: I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."
This is the proto-euangellion – the first mention of the Gospel in the Bible.

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This just happens to be the Christmas story. God sending His savior king to a hostile world to overthrow the tyranny of the Devil and his seed. But Satan does not like it. Like a wicked dragon, he seeks to devour the seed of the woman – always attacking the descendants of Abraham. And finally when the King is born in Bethlehem, Herod the Great seeks to destroy this child by murdering all the young boys of that small town – but God intervenes to protect this Savior King.
And as this boy grows and lives his life, he proves himself to be a wonderful counselor, especially when tempted by the devil. Jesus does not give into his human appetites, or claim the nations as an inheritance before completing the full terms of his contract.
He proves himself to have wisdom and understanding, counsel and might, knowledge and fear of the Lord.
When tested, Adam and Eve perceive with their eyes and they listen with their ears. But this is not how the Savior King will judge, for he knows what righteousness is. It is not self seeking, but it defends the weak and the meek and establishes equity upon the earth.
This Savior King is in fact, the Mighty God who will conquer the curse of death that has destined every line of humanity to the dust of the earth.
But this Savior King is also the Everlasting Father. Bringing to our lives eternal significance – our works will not perish in the dust; but will have impact in the heavenly realms. Our Savior King rules over earth and eternity and He will finally, and as we expect Him, defeat every evil force and triumph in glory over the serpent and his schemes.
And His victory as king will be final; because He will rule as the prince of peace! All fighting will end, and the burden he bears upon His shoulders of managing the heavenly kingdom will be akin to the work that Adam had in the Garden before he fell into sin – it will be a joy and exhilaration to rule over a people who only love the glory of God and desire to obey Him for all of eternity.

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Prophecy cannot predict anything! prophecy cannot be fulfilled if there is no gameplan in place! More than that, the plan may be in place, but it does no good unless you have the absolute ability to carry out the plan! And this is exactly what God does! God can fortell elements of the Christmas story hundreds of years before the prophesied events happen because God has a plan for this world, and He has the ability to accomplish His purposes.

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God promised Abraham a line of inumerable descendants – and that Kings would come from his fruitfullness. But his wife Sarah was barren, The way of women had ceased in her body, she was worn out. She could still cook in the kitchen, but HER own oven had lost its fire.
Sarah was a woman, who in that culture, was actually considered cursed by God for her barren condition. AND now here she is, late in life; she’s probably doubting that her life amounted to anything at all – why had she been born, what had her life accomplished? And yet powerfully, at the end of the day, Sarah IS an accomplice to the redemption of God’s people, she helps to establish the Rule of the Messiah, and she is a patriot in defeating the power of the devil – Wow!
It was a MIRACLE that Sarah had a baby. God visits, announces, and says “Nothing is impossible.” God took that which was looked over and forgotten and beyond use, and planned to accomplish something great in her – That is Christmas!

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It’s ironic to realize that the Christmas story is carried along by two women of note: One was a woman who couldn’t get pregnant, and the other was a woman who shouldn’t have been pregnant.

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And this is where the plans and prophesy of Christmas impact our present. Dare I say, with the weight of prophetic wisdom, that there must now be certain things we can completely affirm because of Christmas!
We dare not over-look, neglect, or ever think that some person in the world has no significance or impact upon others. Who are we to determine that God has not intended to do something even though the weakest and the most incapacitated? Christmas teaches us that God uses old, barren women; unpopular and little towns; frightened and hassled young women needing shelter – these are the ones that God uses to work miracles of redemption – and our eyes and sensitivities should always be towards these and others.

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Christianity is a trip! When I say this, I mean two things primarily. (1) God is a mover! God created everything, and He likes it moving – everything in creation is spinning, or flying, or gravitating, or floating, or growing, or dying – it all has momentum, and it is going in a some direction! When we evaluate all of life from both a scientific and a Biblical perspective – we really can say with our best 60’s voice “Life’s a trip, man.”
(2) When I say Christianity is a trip, I mean that God does NOT have you where He WANTS you to be right now! – This is what I mean by that --God wants you to be going in a particular direction (and I mean that spiritually, ecumenically) – and He will take you there until He fulfills His and our ultimate destiny – and that destiny is His Glory! If you are still here on this planet at this very moment – God is without a doubt, taking you somewhere! – trippy!


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I think the details of the Christmas story again teach us the obvious: God wants to move people from their current location – and now I am speaking primarily in a spiritual context (stop moving away from California!) – and take them to a place where people will see His Glory!
Joseph and Mary had to move to see God’s glory. Shepherd’s in the field who thought they are seeing God’s glory, had go to another place to look into the face of true glory. All of this taking place as Wiseman from the east are traveling on their way…
We often look at how life moves us about, and conclude that it is actually a great inconvenience. We get upset by the trials that force us to change our plans; we voice our complaints to God for how everything needs to start over again – and we take things quite personally that the GREAT goals we had in mind, slip by us and become a waste of all our time and energy.
But think about Joseph and Mary for a moment. Two people elected by God to carry out the plan of redemption – and all they are is HASSLED! She is pregnant before her time; he is committed to a future bride who has regular conversations with “angels;” they both must pick up and travel when it was really time to settle down.
WHAT was God doing? I’m sure they each had their life perfectly planned out – but now God is moving them to ---- HIS greater glory.
SO God is also moving us – He has a goal in mind – He has a plan to bring each of us a future and a hope. And yet, we all know what it is to be HASSLED by uncontrollable circumstances; but we must hold on to the conviction that God’s view of the terrain that we are traveling is far more clear to Him – and that He has a glorious objective in mind. Perhaps we should accept then that life is more than a trip – it is actually a pretty amazing RIDE! The LORD has you, He has EVERYTHING in creation moving, and He has a destination for us all.

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This again is the Christmas story – distance being covered in order to reveal the glory of God. Our obvious application of the Christmas story is this – will we trust God to lead us in a direction that will reveal His glory? At the end of our “ride” will we be convinced that we will be publicly glorifying God for His grand design?
There is one direction that would seem to be the opposite, or the negation of this message, and that direction is backsliding! Backsliding is also a trip isn’t it? It is traveling in a direction. But does it go in a direction where God is Glorified? Well, Yes, and No – Surely, it is God’s revealed will that backsliding is antithetical to the Christian life of maturing and becoming more like Christ! This is the glory of salvation – that we would be like Christ – this is God’s chosen direction for His chosen people.
Unfortunately, many of us know what backsliding is – it’s the charting of our own path, it is the ignoring of God’s clearly marked boundaries, it is our unwillingness to walk difficult paths, and it is our fascination with shortcuts.
As a former backslider (…) I’d like to speak to anyone wavering off the path – God’s word is clear about His ultimate end for His people. We will either glorify God for His goodness and gracious provisions – OR – we will glorify Him for His righteous judgment against sinners.


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This has been the theme of our current Advent series – It appears that those people who have some degree of “earthly glory,” are the most threatened by the gift of God, they refuse the gift and the relationship that the gift provides.
I think this still holds true today. The person who rejects God’s gift of Jesus Christ, is the one who is apt to glorify their own intellect, or independence, or even their own sinful lifestyle – they glory in it – even a destitute bum on skid row, in his own eyes, can have too much pride to receive God’s gift. And conversely, it is the poor in spirit, the one who recognizes that they have no glory in themselves – these are the ones whom God lavishes His gift upon – and here is the greatest part of the story – If we are willing to admit that we have no glory in ourselves, then God will lavish upon us the gift of His glory!

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Jesus didn’t come to earth at Christmas time to simply offer peace and justice, He came to demand it, to require it, and to command it from every being in the universe. Jesus came to establish His dominion so that everyone would live according to His kind of peace – that's the kind of “PEACE ON EARTH” that Jesus brings at Christmas! He is going to get it HIS WAY!!
It’s this kind of teaching that makes me want to start my own T-shirt business – where the front of the shirt says, “Jesus offers NOTHING,” and on the back it will say, “He Commands, He Demands, He Requires!” (CommunionPres.org)

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And this leads me to discuss the greatest battle of all time. It was the war that took place upon the cross in the body and soul of Jesus my savior. At the cross, God went to war against every unholy sin found in His children. Every profanity, every adultery, every mockery, every vanity – you name it – every little and big thing that fell short of the glory of God was defeated and destroyed and rendered powerless by the furious wrath of God at the cross.
Every soul who trusts in the savior will know that the final death blow upon sin, and the power of death, and the power of the devil was executed upon the cross of Christ. God went out marching to war against the stench and wretchedness of rebellious disobedience and apathetic unbelief and in a gruesome, but final battle – destroyed the complete curse of sin upon the perfect Lamb of God who offered himself as a sacrifice on behalf of a dying and defiled humanity.
Jesus Christ took every one of our sins and placed them before the righteous execution of God and Jesus paid for our misery in His body upon a bloody battlefield so that we would NEVER, EVER, have to experience the threat of God’s judgment for all eternity.
Who was my enemy on that day when Jesus represented me in battle? Well, that’s the beautiful scandal of the cross. God marched out to battle to destroy me -- my sin and rebellion; but Jesus enters in as a faithful brother and took my just punishment -- ON THAT VERY BATTLEFIELD, it was the demanding God who was my enemy! God was killing me off at the cross – why me? Because I was in league with every rebellious sinner from Adam and Eve on – But look at what God did in a moment of Justice – He brought Peace…
While God came to destroy me in battle, He righteously satisfied His judgment upon sin in Christ – and gave to me the Righteousness of Christ. God took away my offense by placing it upon Christ and gave to me the righteous, pure, faithful, sincere, and selfless life of Jesus Christ and raised me up as a revived and restored humanity. God my enemy became God my savior.

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At the end of the day, I find it hard to know peace and justice when I seem to be struggling with myself as enemy. The struggle against myself is also never helped when I hang out with the wrong people, and in the wrong places.
So I ask myself, Why do I give in to the part of me that Christ has defeated? It’s like entertaining the dead when I should really be proclaiming the gospel to them so that they would hear and see the power of life – the power of the resurrected Christ in my life!
May God forgive, and convict us for all the times that we waste opportunities playing around with the “dead and damned” when we should have been bringing them the truth, and light, and life!
These people do not know peace, and my casual entertainments with them does not prepare them for the reality of the spiritual war that is going on! We as Christians should not know peace if we never live as soldiers of the light.

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I furthermore believe that this God made me in such a way that I could comprehend Him in some way. That He equipped me with a sound enough mind that could conclude that everything existing on earth, in the solar system, in the galaxy, arrived here by more than just a random collision of gaseous clouds (Which was Carl Sagan’s answer to Why Am I Here? “We owe our existence to a random collision of gaseous clouds.”)
Carl Sagan’s conclusion as to why we exist is very unsatisfying to me. And I don’t believe that I am being proud or preferring my specie over another, because I have an awareness of my own mind, my own thoughts, and my own “soulishness” if you will, that compels me to believe that there is a powerful God who intends to be God over all life on earth.
More than that, this God has the ability to communicate with me personally. He has preserved a series of texts of His truths in the Bible that I can read and make sense of its teaching. This God can also speak to my inner conscience and motivate me spiritually to think and act in a certain way.
So here is my foundation for life. I have placed my faith on this foundation: I Am Here because God exists; and I am here because this God is going to do something with me! My mind rejects uncaused accidents and purposeless activity

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that He exists and that he rewards those who seek Him.

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My faith tells me that there is a huge reality that I cannot see – Angels, and warfare, and heavenly realms. I don’t see it, but I believe it, and I want to act like I believe it by living boldly, offering my body as a living sacrifice, trusting that the very words of God that I speak will not return void.
All I’m saying is that if we really believed in all the things we say we believe in, we’d act a whole lot different – we’d be more faithful in following, serving, and worshipping Christ.

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This leads me to the next aspect of FAITH, it rests on a testimony. Now lots of churches love to hear people’s testimony. It is such a regular occurrence in so many churches – "Brother Bob, come here and tell the congregation your testimony!" And then Brother Bob explains how important he was, or how sinful he was, and how he had a miraculous encounter with Jesus, and how now he’s a happy, faithful follower of Christ – Now it’s wonderful to hear the redeemed of the Lord say so, But you know what? My faith is never to be placed in a mere man’s testimony. There are only two testimonies we are to build our faith upon! Do you know them?
The testimony of God’s word, and the testimony of the Holy Spirit confirming God’s word! And God’s word, and the Holy Spirit ultimately only speak of ONE THING don’t they? The man, Jesus Christ!
Here’s my testimony for you today. The more you know, learn about, read about, pray to, ponder, obey, and follow Jesus Christ – the more you do these things – the more rewarding your personal faith will be. And I say this based upon God’s word!
If your faith is ever placed upon a mere man’s testimony – no matter how stirring and inspiring it is, it is NOT a firm foundation for faith, because it is not the gospel!
Brother Bob does not call you to faith, Brother Bob does not share with you his righteousness, Brother Bob is not sanctifying you, Brother Bob is not preparing a place for you for all eternity!
Let’s not get captivated by non-biblical stories, but let’s faithfully share the testimony about what Christ has done for us in his life, death, and resurrection, and in the Spirit’s ability to confirm it in our souls. And if I can pair down 1 John 5 to make the point: … the Spirit is the one who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater, for this is the testimony of God that He has borne concerning His Son.

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